In this conversation, Vanessa Leone and Rory discuss the challenges and benefits of running and breathwork. Vanessa shares her struggles with running, while Rory, a breathwork coach, emphasizes the importance of distinguishing between jogging and running. They explore the mental and physical benefits of running, including mindfulness and emotional release. Rory highlights the significance of nasal breathing for better performance and hydration. They also touch on the importance of patience, progressive overload, and the role of music in enhancing the running experience. The conversation concludes with Rory’s advice to lace up and enjoy the process